Talk given in the Space in the City series "Pie in the Sky? Life, Death, Heaven and Hell" at the United Church, Winchester, England on 26 January 2011. Introduced by Revd Amanda Goulding. Questions chaired by Debbie Thrower. www.spaceinthecity.org.uk Note: There is a break in the recording at the end of Dr Gooder's talk, after about 35 minutes (when the tape was turned over). Debbie Thrower's first question is very quiet, then when Dr Gooder answers the volume is somewhat higher than during her talk.